Just a Bite...of Summer!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:24] Speaker B: Hello and welcome to Just a Bite. This is Hope Lane Gavin, Director of Nutrition Policy and Programs with the Ohio association of Food Banks, and I'll be your host today. The Ohio association of Food Banks is Ohio's largest charitable response to hunger. Representing Ohio's 12 Feeding America food banks and 3,600 hunger relief agencies, we support our members by operating programs, including two state funded food programs in addition to AmeriCorps programs, benefits, education and enrollment programs, and more. July is one of my favorite times of year in Ohio. The sweet corn is coming in, melons are worth buying again, and farmers markets across the state are bustling with local produce, fresh baked goods, flowers, handmade products and neighbors catching up with one another. While farmers markets are often known for their seasonal offerings and small town charm, they also play an important role in Ohio's food system. Farmers markets help connect consumers directly with local growers and producers, support Ohio's agricultural economy, and increase access to fresh, locally grown foods in communities across the state. At the Ohio association of Food Banks, we know that strong local food systems benefit everyone. Through our food purchasing and procurement efforts, we work with farmers, growers and food producers across Ohio to help ensure nutritious food reaches families experiencing hunger while also supporting Ohio agriculture. In today's episode, we're talking all things farmers markets. First, I'll sit down with Kerry Harshberger, our senior director of Food Supply Chain, to discuss the importance of local purchasing, the role farmers and producers play in Ohio's food system, and how local agriculture connects to hunger relief efforts throughout the state. Then, because we couldn't resist, we'll have a little fun with some members of the Ohio association of Food Banks team as we debate our favorite farmers markets must buy summer produce and a few hot button Ohio topics like whether sweet corn or tomatoes reign supreme. So grab your reusable tote bag your shopping list or don't if you're more of a browse and see what catches your eye kind of shopper. And let's get started. As always, you can check out our show notes for this episode and all others at ohio food banks.org Just Aite Again, this is your host, Hope Lane Gavin with Just a Bite, hosted by the Ohio association of Food Banks. All right, today I'm joined by Carrie Harshbarger, Senior director of Food Supply Chain with the Ohio association of Food Banks. Carrie, thank you for being here today. [00:02:42] Speaker C: Thank you for having me. [00:02:43] Speaker B: Before we dive into today's topic, can you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself, your role here at OAF and how Your work connects food producers to our network? [00:02:52] Speaker C: Sure. Yeah. Well, I'm Carrie Harshbarger, I'm the senior director of food supply chain. As you mentioned at here at oaf and I like to say that our department, we work with food coming in and support food going out the 12 regional Feeding America food banks that we work with in our network. We've had a long time funded, state funded core foods program where we purchase agricultural clearance products from Ohio farmers and other farmers throughout the region. And we also bid out shelf stable and protein products to help bring center plate items to Ohioans in need. And in general, we're always willing and happy to connect with any producers that are looking to either connect with their local food bank or connect with us here at oaf. [00:03:41] Speaker B: And Carrie, how long have you been here at oaf? [00:03:44] Speaker C: I've been here for going on five years. Prior to working at oaf, I was a farm to table chef for a long time at some different restaurants throughout the Columbus area. And I also simultaneously was working for a local hummus company, managing the production kitchen and then going on to sales in QA and worked then moved to the consumer packaged good space full time working at Wine Snacks in Marion, Ohio. [00:04:13] Speaker B: What a career. We love to see it. All right, so to start us off today, we'll be chatting about local purchasing and food access and you know what that means. My favorite topic of all time, farmers markets. July is peak farmers market season in Ohio. Why are farmers markets and local purchasing just generally such an important part of Ohio's food system? [00:04:36] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a great question. Well, Ohio's number one industry is agriculture here in the state. About 87% of farms in Ohio, give or take, are small family run farms. So that's less than 180 acres. And typically are, you know, either one to two people or families managing these farms. A lot of our farmers rely on direct to consumer sales, which happen, you know, at farmers markets or through community share agriculture boxes, CSA boxes. So farmers markets are, you know, a huge part of supporting local farmers and our local agricultural communities here in the state and protecting our farmlands, you know, to ensure that they can keep feeding our communities for generations to come. [00:05:25] Speaker B: Yeah, that's, that's pretty powerful stuff. So when people think about fighting hunger, they often think about food banks and grocery stores. But how do local farmers and farmers markets fit into that picture? [00:05:36] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, I think it's really important to recognize that a lot of our small farmers and community gardens and farms donate to pantries and food banks. You know, throughout the state, you know, a lot of these farmers too operate on, you know, small margins. So the fact that they do this out of their own goodwill is, you know, incredible support for our communities and need generally speaking as well, you know, our local farms are vital for food sovereign communities. When we think about COVID when grocery store shelves were empty in those early days, but our farmers markets, they weren't nearly as impacted. So, you know, it's really vital for economic health of our communities and you know, just to be able to feed our neighbors to support our local farmers and ensure that they're able to be around. [00:06:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Boom. I mean, you absolutely nailed it. That's really impactful. [00:06:38] Speaker C: Yeah, Yeah. I mean, our food supply chain is incredibly complex and there can be a lot of miles for products to go. So, you know, to be able to buy from folks within your community is, you know, when you're able to, is really important. And a lot of, you know, different co ops and markets and things do take SNAP and WIC and you know, so I think that can be a challenging misconception at times that certain local foods are inaccessible. [00:07:11] Speaker B: Right. I'm so glad you brought that up. That many markets and farmers and co ops and things are trying to be more accessible and being able to accept wic, accept summer EBT benefits, accept snap, you oftentimes don't find a lot of markets in underserved communities. And so I think that there's a little bit of work to be done there. But even the ones that we attend, and I know we're going to get into this later, the Worthington Farmers Market and the Grove City Farmers Market, the signs about accepting the senior farmers market nutrition program, the WIC benefits. And so I'm seeing it more and more as the years goes on, but I would really love to see more markets in some of those, in some of those underserved areas themselves. So I have work to do. [00:07:56] Speaker C: I'll. I'll shout out the Ohio Farmers Market Network. If you go to their website, they have a really great map of, you know, all the farmers markets in the state. I know they keep that very up to date. And then, you know, different benefits that farmers markets accept. [00:08:12] Speaker B: Yeah, and correct me if I'm wrong, that's like kind of like vendor by vendor. So it's not like the entire Worthington Farmers Market accepts WIC or whatever. It's like this vendor accepts. Okay, that's what I thought. Do any of the farmers or producers or vendors that we purchase from for our agricultural clearance programs that you're aware of also sell at farmers markets around Ohio. [00:08:32] Speaker C: Yeah, we work with producers of all sizes, farmers of all sizes. So there are definitely a lot that, you know, have different streams and channels that they sell their products in. Farmers markets, auctions, produce auctions are also really important part of, you know, our local agricultural communities, and we do purchase products from those. And a lot of our local food banks have connections, too, with farmers that sell directly at farmers markets and. Yeah. [00:09:01] Speaker B: Are there particular Ohio products or crops that we prioritize purchasing when they're in season? [00:09:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, a lot of fan favorites are, you know, going to be in season here in the summer and Ohio's growing season, corn, tomatoes, summer squash, cucumbers, you know, fall squash, you know, later in the season. We. We always try and purchase, you know, in season and local products where you can. Because that's also where you can get the better deals, too, purchasing in season and local. [00:09:30] Speaker B: And you may not know off the top of your head, so that's okay. But is there anything that you feel like Ohio can grow that, like, people are unaware of? [00:09:37] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. I love that question. There's a lot in Ohio that can grow that I don't think people realize. I mean, especially when we talk about, you know, going to the farmer's market and, you know, talking to farmers about different things they're experimenting with. I mean, you see a lot of farmers trying out ginger, and that's not one that screams Ohio to me. Yeah, fresh ginger, fresh turmeric. People can grow all sorts of things with, especially with season extension, like greenhouses, ginger. [00:10:06] Speaker B: Okay. I can't wait to tell my husband that we should give that a shot. I really want to give peanuts a try in my garden, but I have not heard of too much success in Ohio on peanuts. Do you know anything about that? [00:10:17] Speaker C: Not in a larger scale. Yeah. I imagine with some folks with their own gardens at home or homesteads, you know, and try peanuts. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm going to have to. I'll get back to you. You. I'm excited. I'll let you know. All right. My last and my absolute favorite question is, do you have a favorite farmer's market here in central Ohio? And if so, what makes that market stand out to you? And lastly, and let's just be honest here, do you have that classic farmer's market tote? [00:10:44] Speaker C: I'll start with the easy question. I use all sorts of the reusable bags that we get from trade shows, conferences, et cetera. So I don't have that really Cute farmer's market basket that I would love to have. But we do bring our own bag. [00:11:02] Speaker B: Not only do we bring our own bags, but we bring a wagon that's really cute. [00:11:07] Speaker C: You can find me and my family at Clintonville Farmers Market on Saturday mornings. We participate in the compost exchange. So Saturday mornings we drop off our compost. That's always an important part of which farmer's market we choose. And they do have a drop off location. But I love all our farmers markets for different reasons. I love trying new markets. I think it's really fun to try new markets when you travel especially. I feel like this can get talked about less. But I love going to different co ops and farm Stop. I went to one recently that was new to me. It's a farm exchange in Canal Winchester. But it's a really cool store. They have a whole room full of freezers for protein, a whole room full of coolers for dairy and milk. And there were a lot of farmers that we worked with with the LFPA program that you could find there. I lived in Minnesota for four years where there's a co op on nearly every neighborhood in Minneapolis and all throughout this state. And so I, I, I also really love co ops and Beach W Market in Clintonville is really great place. You know, it can be a great place to stop even when farmers market season is over as well. Yeah. And can be sometimes a little bit easier to run in with parking. [00:12:32] Speaker B: Yeah, parking. Oh, man, I'm often finding myself when I go to that market. I mean, I'm parking in like somebody's like front of their house, like trying to find any, any spot that I possibly can. I mean, it's a. Yeah. [00:12:45] Speaker C: I think we need more co ops in Ohio. So I'm going to put a shout out to that. [00:12:48] Speaker B: I love that. I love that. All right, thanks, Carrie, for your time today. So now that we've heard about the importance of farmers markets to Ohio's food system, we thought we'd have a little fun and ask some members of our team about their favorite markets around central Ohio. So tell us your name, your role at the Ohio association of Food Banks and your favorite farmers market in central Ohio. [00:13:14] Speaker D: Yeah. I'm Grace Wagner. I'm the director of health initiatives here at the association. So a little bit about my role. I run two federal health insurance enrollment programs getting people connected to health insurance. And then I also support our network's efforts to connect with healthcare systems. So making sure that we're both addressing food needs and also trying to support Health when, when and where we can across the network. My favorite farmers market in central Ohio. I feel like it's a little basic. [00:13:44] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:13:45] Speaker D: It's right in my backyard. My family goes to the Worthington Market both in the summer and little known fact, they have it over the winter. So we go there during the winter as well. [00:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah, we love Worthington. We were just chatting about that right before we started recording today. It's beautiful and there's so many vendors. It's just a little packed. [00:14:02] Speaker D: Sometimes you got to get there right [00:14:04] Speaker B: at 8am yeah, we were talking about they really should consider shutting down High Street. Like that would really help with all the dogs, all the strollers. So Give me your 30 second sales pitch. What makes this market special to you outside of it? Just convenience, like you said. [00:14:20] Speaker D: There's just a lot there. It's both a lot of produce and a lot of protein, but also a lot of prepared foods. And I feel like to double. It's a double whammy. We get to go and shop and we also get to take my kid out of the house and he has a great time, people watching and all sorts of stuff. Yeah. [00:14:35] Speaker B: Oh, I love that. I love that. Are you normally a planned shopper with a list or a wander around and see what's what looks good shopper? [00:14:43] Speaker D: I kind of do both. If we're going out, I always have one thing I want. Like, you know, last month was like the height of garlic scapes. I was like, okay, I really want to find scapes this week. And then we'll just see like what else is out there or, you know, we're good on produce this week, let's go stop at and get some pork or whatever. So we always have one or two things that we need and then of course we end up buying, you know, way more. [00:15:06] Speaker B: My husband was pretty big on the garlic scapes. I like, was not familiar with them until a couple years ago when we started getting them from the farmer's market. And you can really only get them at the farmer's market? Like you can't get them at the grocery? [00:15:18] Speaker D: No, I've never seen them at like a traditional, traditional store. Only at the markets. [00:15:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:23] Speaker B: What's an underrated item people should buy more of or more often at farmers markets perhaps, versus the traditional grocery store? [00:15:31] Speaker D: You know, I think people are pretty familiar with the produce available at farmer's markets, but there's always really great protein and eggs and bread and like there's other staples of pantries in your Cooking that are available at farmer's markets. We buy a lot of protein that we then freeze or we buy in bulk at the start of the year or we get to know a farmer and we then buy in bulk from them and then freeze it and it's more cost up front. So that can be a barrier. But then it ends up actually being a little bit more reasonable in the long run. [00:16:05] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I think that's a really good point. Like eggs, I'm a really big proponent of buy pasture raised eggs and you know, local eggs. And they're much cheaper at the farmer's market than they are at the store. And people, yeah, people don't know like it's like $5. It could be five or six dollars. And you know, you know, the person, they're down the street, they have the chickens in their backyards or whatever and yeah, I totally agree with. That's a really good point. We've, we buy a lot of meat from the market as well. And so much so that like we after there's a particular vendor at the Dublin Farmers, they come from like Mount Galid area. And so last year we ended up like driving up there to like get like more meat. Cause we were like, we don't know how else to get ahold of you. So we drove up there and they were like, nobody's ever done this before. [00:16:57] Speaker D: And I will say too, like, if you find a farmer like that that you love, a lot of farmers do what they call CSA boxes, Community support agriculture boxes, which my family has done. You know, if I know we're heading into a particularly busy season and I don't think that we're gonna be able to get to the market every week. That's another great way to support local farmer. When you find, you know, that producer that you love, what they're, what they're making or what they're selling, and then you can continue to support even when you're like, I'm not going to be able to go to the farmers market every weekend. Yeah. [00:17:26] Speaker B: All right, last but not least, a fun this or that to end us today. So let's go. Sweet corn or tomatoes? [00:17:33] Speaker D: Tomatoes, but only cherry tomatoes. I'm not a huge fan of the big ones. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Okay. [00:17:37] Speaker D: Okay. [00:17:38] Speaker B: I'm a big sweet corn person. Oh man. We grilled some this weekend and it was chef's kiss this. Peaches or berries? [00:17:46] Speaker D: Peaches. [00:17:46] Speaker B: This is fun. Cuz I am on the other side of her. We just got some good blueberries this weekend. Fresh bread or local honey? [00:17:56] Speaker D: Oh, man, probably bread. Nothing beats a good loaf of sourdough or rye, you know, love of bread. [00:18:03] Speaker B: I think I'm with you. I think I'm with you on that one. All right. Flowers or chashkis? [00:18:07] Speaker D: I don't know. Probably flowers. I got so much crap at my house from having a kid. Like, it's always cute and I love it. But the flowers. Flowers add some brightness to the house. [00:18:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I struggle, though. There's. There's some really good, like, hand. Like jewelry, handmade jewelry that I've gotten. Like some clay earrings that I've gotten at the farmers market recently that I really love. Okay. We kind of talked about this at the top, but are you an arrive early for the selection or late for the deal? [00:18:36] Speaker D: So early for the selection. Especially in the Worthington Market. Like, it's so popular. It's so wonderful. People are there in force. You gotta go. You gotta go, right? [00:18:45] Speaker B: At 8am yeah. There's no deals. There's no. There's no late. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Perfect. Thank you again, Grace, for your time and having a little fun with us. This on Just A Bite today. All right. You're listening to Just A Bite. I'm your host, Hope Lane Gavin, serving as the director of nutrition policy and program programs with the Ohio association of Food Banks. And I'm hosting today's episode, all about Ohio's farmers markets and seasonal crops. So tell us your name, your role at the Ohio association of Food Banks and your favorite farmers market in central Ohio. [00:19:22] Speaker A: Sure. My name is Gregory Pruden and I do all the computer stuff here. Well, since I moved, I'm going to say it's the North Market, but my favorite one is the Franklin Park Conservatory. [00:19:34] Speaker B: That's one I haven't been to yet. Like, I. There's very few in central Ohio I have not been to. And that's one. I'm glad you said that. All right. [00:19:43] Speaker A: It's beautiful, right? So it's nice to get over there on a. I think it's Wednesday. [00:19:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I love that answer. That is one I haven't been to yet. Tell me a little bit about what. What makes that market special to you? [00:19:57] Speaker A: I think it's just the. The surround. It's beautiful there. It's nice to go to that setting. Whereas, like, the Bexley one is on. It's on the street that they block off. There's nowhere to park. But I've recently moved to New Albany so that, you know, I don't really go to either. Either of those I do come downtown to when I'm shopping for to cook. Then I'll go to farmers markets, different ones, because they have something special or something, you know. [00:20:26] Speaker B: Have you been to the New Albany market yet? [00:20:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:28] Speaker B: Okay. I have not been to that one either. So you just said that there is sometimes something special that you're looking for at a particular market. So do you have a favorite vendor or a product that you'd recommend to everybody? And where could we find it? [00:20:39] Speaker A: Well, the vendor that comes to mind is the crazy cucumber, and that's because it's the tagline Peace, love and pickles. That's the part that I like. And the pickles are good. [00:20:50] Speaker B: I totally agree. And there's so many, like, I don't know if you. You have noticed, but there's so many, like, others that are trying to get in the pickle game, but they can't. They can't infiltrate that one. [00:21:01] Speaker A: They don't hold a pickle to it. [00:21:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. That's so funny. All right, and so what's your can't leave without buying it item? No matter which farmer's market you're at, you're like, I'm looking for this, the corn. [00:21:14] Speaker A: I'm sorry. Yeah, I. I just love to get that on the grill somehow, you know. It's from the Ohio fair. Do you remember the state fair? And you could just smell that corn roasting it. It was the whole smell. That's. It just gets me the smell. [00:21:27] Speaker B: I'm with you on the corn. We were talking about that earlier with Grace. I'm with you on the corn. It' it's so good. All right, let's do. Last but not least, let's do a quick rapid fire round. So what's your favorite Ohio summer fruit? [00:21:41] Speaker A: Blackberries. [00:21:42] Speaker B: Ooh, I love that. [00:21:44] Speaker A: Blueberries are close. Second. A lot of farmers markets just don't have a lot of fruit either. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. [00:21:49] Speaker A: And. But they do tend to have those blackberries and blueberries and raspberries too. And all of those are great. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Yes. I saw a lady this weekend at the Grove City Market just. Just exclusively selling raspberries. All right, so you just answered this one, but I'm asking you anyway to elaborate. So what's the. The most Ohio answer possible? Sweet corn, yes or no? Yes. All day, every day. And you. It sounds like you prefer grilled. [00:22:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I prefer grilled. I just did something weird last weekend with one I got at a market, and that was to put. Create a compound butter With. With like. Like cayenne pepper and cumin, that stuff. And make. Put that butter, put it on it, wrap it in. In tin foil, and just put it in the oven. And you know when it's raining, Right. And that was really, really something I hadn't had. I was like, there's no way you could beat roasted corn. But because it was spicy, it was good. Yeah. [00:22:45] Speaker B: I saw this at Kroger, and since then I've been recreating it. Have you had the, like. Have you seen or had the Grippo corn? Like the Grippos, like the. The potato chip company? [00:22:56] Speaker A: Oh, no. [00:22:57] Speaker B: Okay. So they were selling for a couple weeks at Kroger this, like, pack of sweet corn with Grippo, like the potato chips. And so we bought some because we were intrigued, and it was actually really good. So the concept is, like, you cook the corn however you normally cook it, which we take it grilled, too, and then you slather it in mayo, and then you roll it in these potato chips. It sounds crazy. I know it sounds crazy, but we aren't the only ones. Once, I swear it was sold at Kroger, and then it's not sold anymore. I'm not sure why. It was like a two week, like, little fun Diddy. And then this weekend, Mark and I were like, let's just do it at home because we have, like, those items. So we did it. It's fun. It sounds crazy. It's fun. [00:23:36] Speaker A: I. Barbecue with mayonnaise. So I know. [00:23:38] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you. [00:23:40] Speaker A: White barbecue. [00:23:41] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay. Outside of the corn, favorite Ohio summer vegetable. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Green beans. [00:23:46] Speaker B: Okay. I like it. [00:23:48] Speaker A: That. That's one of my favorite. Either the French or the. Whatever we call it snap beans. Those are my fav. Favorite. [00:23:54] Speaker B: Yeah. We're having a hard time in our garden this year growing green beans, but I would say they do. You're right. You're right, you're right. I'd say. I don't know. We bought a lot of cucumbers this weekend at the farmers market, and they were pretty good. Zucchini as well. [00:24:10] Speaker A: My mom used to bring me a zucchini that was like, this big, and I would make a special spice soup out of it. The whole thing. One soup. It was really fun. [00:24:19] Speaker B: I love that. [00:24:19] Speaker D: That. [00:24:20] Speaker B: I love that. I love that. All right, this is a fun question. What's something you wish that they sold at the farmers market in smaller quantities? [00:24:28] Speaker A: Oh, I don't think I ever thought that. I'm always happy to get. I. And I tend to use it whatever That I get. Although I also don't think. I mean, that's kind of the nice thing about going to the farmers markets. You can get one or two of something. Whereas you go to Kroger, sometimes you got to buy six or eight of them. And so I. I haven't. It hasn't occurred to me that that [00:24:49] Speaker B: would be a. I think sometimes with some of the produce. I wish. Cuz like some of the berries, you know, when you get fresh berries, you have to eat them that day or the next day. And like, if you maybe you wanted them on Monday morning and you go on Saturday and Monday, they might be a little moldy. I found that to be the case. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's quick. It's quick. It can be quick. And we found that even in our own garden, like with our strawberries. Like, you had to eat those that day. I think it's just when things are fresh. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Let me ask you, ask you, how are you keeping the squirrels from eating your strawberry? [00:25:20] Speaker B: We. Okay, it's not. Squirrels aren't even our problem for us. It's the birds. It's the birds. And what's crazy is they then poop in our yard and then the seeds come out. Oh, my God. It's terrible. It's terrible. So we. [00:25:32] Speaker A: And now you have plants all over the yard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:25:35] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly. So, no, the squirrel. It's not the squirrels. It's the birds on our strawberries. And strawberry season is basically up. But, like, it's brutal. It's the birds. And they won't let us have sunflowers either. This year. [00:25:48] Speaker A: We put cayenne pepper all around them on the outside. But it doesn't work for birds at all because they don't. They don't actually have the same. They can't taste it. But squirrels and those things, it does keep them off till it rains. [00:26:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. Good to know. Cayenne. I don't think the squirrels. I think the squirrels might be our problem with our green beans. [00:26:07] Speaker A: Now that we're out in New Albany, our problem is deer. They're coming and eating everything. [00:26:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I would feel bad for them. I would be like, just go ahead. Oh, that's fun. All right, Gregory, I appreciate your time today. This has been great. Thank you. Before we wrap up here, is there anything else you'd like listeners to know or any final thoughts you'd like to leave us with? Carrie? [00:26:38] Speaker C: I mean, I'd say yeah, if you are intrigued but intimidated to go to your local farmer's market, you know, find a salary. That's nice. Go out and do it. It's fun. Yeah. It's a great way to explore. Talk to your farmers. Get to know what they're growing. Get to know what their challenges are, too. You know, I love that. Yeah. So, yeah, get to know the people that grow your food. Food. It will change the way that you cook. It will change the way that you interact with your food. And it can be a really fun shopping experience. So. [00:27:17] Speaker B: To my colleagues Grace, Carrie and Gregory, thank you so much for joining us today and sharing your thoughts and expertise. I always love taking a break from the serious stuff and having a little levity. Thank you for listening to Just a Bite. For resources mentioned in Today's show, visit ohiofoodbanks.org Just a Bite Date and check the show notes for additional information. If you enjoyed today's conversation, please subscribe to the podcast. Wherever you get your podcast, share this show with your network and join us next time for another discussion on issues impacting food and nutrition security in Ohio. Until next time, take care.